I've been thinking of intro ideas and this seems to be the best.

It starts with a black screen, then the crystal ( :BT: ) emerges from the darkness. The two beams of green light come from the right moving left into the crystal and turning into three beams. The "Biotech Game Productions" comes from purple(?) smoke(much like the white smoke in the first bionicle commercials). The "taking bionicle gaming to the next level" shines in from left to right. the whole thing comes at the screen fast and then immediatly goes to the game's menu screen.

comments?
-- *DWAN*

Actually, we're thinking of making a completely 3D intro video, but that idea works, too.

Well, we'll certainly try to do one for the Insurgent's intro, but I'm not certain that the Biotech intro will be in 3D, although that would be pretty cool. Why not just combine the two? It'd look really cool.

If you like.. I could unofficially make something and just toss it out there to see if you like it.

Go for it. :D

Hmm...that one you used for The Insurgent 1beta was pretty nice, but I think the Biotech :BT: should be included in an intro somehow.

Yep, it will be. :) When the old intro was made, I didn't have the Biotech logo thought out very much.

Sounds mucho bueno dude

LoL... On that note I did finish the gem. *texture was more complex than you'd think. >_>* I'll have to see if I can get a screen.

Just render it and save it as a .jpg. :P

LoL... that's what I meant. It's just that i'm not home, and the connection at home -as you VERY well know- isn't all that great. So I don't know if I can get a render uploaded anytime soon. :P

I can probably fiddle with the texture if you still need help.

lol.. sure. The hard thing is making it reflective and equally transparent.

Heh, :blush:, that may be a little more difficult for me. I meant the actual green.

Well IN is talking about renaming the company so I personally think we should hold of on this.


Nickbomb B)

I still intend on keeping the general theme (green crystal and all), so he can keep going. Plus we'll still be keeping Biotech as at least a division.

Ok, then I think we it should start out as a bright green light in the distance and it comes to you like "BAM!" but right before it hits the screen and machine pounds it from the sides and it makes the Biotech symbol

That might work. I can do the light effect very easily. The machine may be difficult though.

Blender can make some brilliant light effects as well as machines. Even if it's a sprite based intro you could still make a sprite image from a blender render.

I actually did that in the intro. for The Insurgent. The little smasher thingies and the doors that open and close were made in Blender.

Oh uh. *goes to play insurgent.*
:blush:

You said that nearly a week ago too. >_> The models aren't overly detailed, but they work.

Yeah well, a week ago the file was corrupted after I downloaded it.

Hence why there's a concept known as 're-downloading.' :P

You may also want to check out the intro. in that demo. It's not the most flashy thing, but it may provide some ideas.

I dont think he has that options since his hard drive is probaby overloaded with Halo and Blender :P programs lol

Pish. Or not Pish. Or.. yeah. Pish.

*downloads*

If you want my opinion, ditch the Crystal concept. It's not really a very creative logo. Try something a little more original, even if you just resort to shapes anyway- like a sphere made out of scaffholding or something.

Well, that kind of symbol was already taken by bORED STUIOs. I've been preferring to find something simple and rarely used. I tend not to see a whole lot of hexagons running around in business logos. Circles show up a lot though: Texaco, B Studios, Pepsi, etc. Sometimes more complex symbols are nice, but they just don't feel as good. Simple and clean often appears more proffesional in the business world. I also want to stay away from overused stereotype symbols. They aren't necessarily common business logos, but they're everywhere just the same. The most obvious one that comes to mind is the dragon. I have nothing against such symbols, but I tend to cringe when I see them more than say "Oh cool!" That being the case, I opted for the one we have now. However, the fact that it's a jewel is a common misconception. Jewels are also somewhat a stereotype symbol. It's a hexagon. Simple as that. It doesn't have to have the faceted finish on it. That's just one of the better looks.

Oh well in that case. *scraps the hexagonal jewel* >_>

As for the machine thing, IDK. It's a good concept, but it seems somewhat cliche' for a permanent logo. I would have to agree with Alg on that we need something unique, and uncommon.

I'll try a few designs for a new logo.*get's paper, pen, pencil, ruler, watercolor pencils, and scanner*
-- *DWAN*

Dragons are not common logos. They tend to be too complex for practical usage.

In my opinion, complexity is attractive, so long as it's not overdone. Simple logos- like a crystal type thing- are too mundane. As you say, popular logos are simple, and in order to be unique, some complexity is nessesary. Simplicity is no longer beautiful.

I'm not designing your logo, obviously, but in my opinion, you would be far better off with something slightly less easy to forget.

How about a cross with raptor bird in the BG in the background?

I'm not going to argue about dragons permeation through culture. Let's just say they're everywhere - not necessarily in logos, but everywhere nonetheless.

True, true. But I'm still at a loss for ideas. >_<

:blink:

Hmm, you need those pies in your face now more than ever V_V (long story)

Yeah, or a flaming dove sitting on the top of the cross.

Yes, which gives a draconic logo the benefit of instant recognition.

And, to Nickbomb:

RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS IN LOGOS = BAD!!

Well, sry Alg but I'm gonna mention another religious symbol, lol (though often seen in pagan stories as well, so not as bad for agnostics and athiests, etc)

The crow or raven (just blackbird I guess) is a symbol of reawakenment and revival--a jumpstart, if you will, of (spiritual) energy in people--in Judaism (and in relation Christianity).

The blackbird has found it's way in popular culture as well, but as a symbol of death--not reawakening--or as a sign of war (taken only because of the fact that it is black and a dove which stands for peace is white...not really in many ancient stories as being so unless you count the valkyries).

Furthermore, the blackbird has also symbolized omens (of all kinds, no just as death or downfall). In many Welsh/Irish myth the blackbird was a lookout and a bringer of news (good or bad). Similarly in Greek/Roman mythology it warned a dude(uhg, forgot his name) about his love's betrayal (and unrelatedly was turned black for being the messenger of bad news).


Game related: I think a few other gamemakers have had it in their logo--but always as dark and disturbing (like with someone's eyeball hanging out of their beaks...eww). Never as a creature of beauty and intelligence.
In some stories of King Arthur the blackbird is noted for it's intelligence and is somehow connected to the game of chess.

sidenote: It's also known as a creature of harsh justice--read the end of the Cinderella story as written by the Grimm Brothers.

A crow would actually be a pretty cool logo, and there's no real religious implication. I like it.

But I think it could (and should) have some religious connotations to it. So, maybe mix a few symbols...crow and cross perhaps...I dunno. (Sorry, my [edited] agnostic friend).

Also, armor of God symbol seems pretty neat too.

Crosses are actually used extensively in wiccan/pagan stuff now (I shop in goth shops...). So maybe some other way of getting the point across.


But again I like crows. They're beautiful creatures with scarily high intellect. Plus they can make a game out of anything--using a straw on a roof to hit an acorn around to each other for example. Anyway, I've said too much and began to ramble.

First of all, I'm not an Atheist. Second of all, religious logos are bad because you alienate potential fans. Should some tension arise between Christians and Muslims, Muslim fans of a Christian community may feel out of place. It's best to avoid religion and politics AS MUCH AS POSSOBLE. Do you intend to prevent Atheist gamers from participating in your community? No? Then don't make them feel unwelcome with religious signs.

I'm not in charge here, but for your own sake, consider my opinion on this matter.

I believe my religion comes first. Not my work. If people are turned away then that's what they'll do ;) . We may get people to come and they learn more about God and the Christian ways. That would make me very happy.

I like your crow idea. I'll add it to my 'to sketch list'.
-- *DWAN*